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	<title>Comments on: A Review of the Rich Internet Applications (RIA) Landscape/Flex</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Rose&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flex &#38; Java</title>
		<link>http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2007/05/17/a-review-of-the-rich-internet-applications-ria-landscapeflex/comment-page-1/#comment-7164</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Rose&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flex &#38; Java</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] got done reading an interesting post by Gerard Mason on Flex &amp; Java developers. He points to my post last year on the RIA Landscape and Flex. Near the end he states he surprised at the black lash on “in-browser” Java technologies:  So, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] got done reading an interesting post by Gerard Mason on Flex &amp; Java developers. He points to my post last year on the RIA Landscape and Flex. Near the end he states he surprised at the black lash on “in-browser” Java technologies:  So, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Franck Wolff</title>
		<link>http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2007/05/17/a-review-of-the-rich-internet-applications-ria-landscapeflex/comment-page-1/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>Franck Wolff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Granite Data Services 0.3.0 is released.

Granite Data Services is a free, open source (LGPL&#039;d), alternative to Adobe® Flex™ 2 Data Services for J2EE application servers with EJB3/Spring/Pojo services support.

Free download is available on Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=183386.

This new 0.3.0 release (following a 0.3.0_RC1) brings security service support, improved transparent externalization performance, detailed logging facilities, revamped and extended ActionScript3 code generation tool, as well as many bug fixes. It should be stable enough for non critical production use.

Detailed release notes and documentation are available on http://www.graniteds.org.

Regards,
Franck Wolff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Granite Data Services 0.3.0 is released.</p>
<p>Granite Data Services is a free, open source (LGPL&#8217;d), alternative to Adobe® Flex™ 2 Data Services for J2EE application servers with EJB3/Spring/Pojo services support.</p>
<p>Free download is available on Sourceforge: <a href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=183386" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=183386</a>.</p>
<p>This new 0.3.0 release (following a 0.3.0_RC1) brings security service support, improved transparent externalization performance, detailed logging facilities, revamped and extended ActionScript3 code generation tool, as well as many bug fixes. It should be stable enough for non critical production use.</p>
<p>Detailed release notes and documentation are available on <a href="http://www.graniteds.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.graniteds.org</a>.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Franck Wolff.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro Estrada</title>
		<link>http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2007/05/17/a-review-of-the-rich-internet-applications-ria-landscapeflex/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro Estrada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your experience mirrors my own. I shied away from Ajax, it seemed like a big ugly hack to me. Flex does away with a lot of the discontinuities with classic web development. I find it much easier to develop an application as a client that has an overall persistent state than as a series of requests/responses with state as a session. I&#039;ve been building desktop apps for a long time felt too constrained with web based approaches. Flex allows a richer way to create applications that are painless to deploy over the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your experience mirrors my own. I shied away from Ajax, it seemed like a big ugly hack to me. Flex does away with a lot of the discontinuities with classic web development. I find it much easier to develop an application as a client that has an overall persistent state than as a series of requests/responses with state as a session. I&#8217;ve been building desktop apps for a long time felt too constrained with web based approaches. Flex allows a richer way to create applications that are painless to deploy over the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Chester Chiperfield</title>
		<link>http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2007/05/17/a-review-of-the-rich-internet-applications-ria-landscapeflex/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Chester Chiperfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jon, I think you are spot on with comments about Ajax and pushing beond natural boundries. I think it has been taken as far as it can, and with Flex we have only scratched the surface of what we can do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Jon, I think you are spot on with comments about Ajax and pushing beond natural boundries. I think it has been taken as far as it can, and with Flex we have only scratched the surface of what we can do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 14:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Give Sun a break, let&#039;s see what they&#039;ll come up with. The do have an advantage of learning from the current players. The more players the better!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give Sun a break, let&#8217;s see what they&#8217;ll come up with. The do have an advantage of learning from the current players. The more players the better!</p>
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		<title>By: bjorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 08:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the Flex community, Jon :-)

I recommend everyone starting with Flex to join the flexcoders mailing list. It&#039;s a great resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the Flex community, Jon <img src='http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I recommend everyone starting with Flex to join the flexcoders mailing list. It&#8217;s a great resource.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ward - RIA Cowboy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jon Rose is Thinking in Flex!</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Ward - RIA Cowboy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jon Rose is Thinking in Flex!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 00:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;For me, Flex is clearly the way to go.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;For me, Flex is clearly the way to go.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jonr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 06:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point/question Ed… Flex actually uses CSS as the main control to the look and feel of a Flex application, through CSS there is access to all of the typical style properties (colors, fonts, etc…).  In addition, they do support skinning to change the actual look of the components through out an application.  I haven’t spent any time looking at how to create custom skins, but you can find some example skins built by the community at: http://scalenine.com/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point/question Ed… Flex actually uses CSS as the main control to the look and feel of a Flex application, through CSS there is access to all of the typical style properties (colors, fonts, etc…).  In addition, they do support skinning to change the actual look of the components through out an application.  I haven’t spent any time looking at how to create custom skins, but you can find some example skins built by the community at: <a href="http://scalenine.com/" rel="nofollow">http://scalenine.com/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the tooling is really important in finding the &quot;right horse&quot; in the fat-client-framework space, and I would expect Adobe/Macromedia to do us right in that space. 

Rich clients are the ur-MVC environment, but I would say that a lot of our experience with web applications has sort of intoduced a &quot;skin&quot; layer beyond the View. How do things like skins and css fit into Flex?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the tooling is really important in finding the &#8220;right horse&#8221; in the fat-client-framework space, and I would expect Adobe/Macromedia to do us right in that space. </p>
<p>Rich clients are the ur-MVC environment, but I would say that a lot of our experience with web applications has sort of intoduced a &#8220;skin&#8221; layer beyond the View. How do things like skins and css fit into Flex?</p>
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