Comments on: Everything you know is wrong… http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/06/18/everything-you-think-is-wrong/ Enterprise Software Consultant Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:02:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: jonr http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/06/18/everything-you-think-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-20332 jonr Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:34:45 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=38#comment-20332 Richard, I do appreciate your passion for bringing attention to the power of the Curl platform. It is an exciting time to be a software engineer, as platforms like Curl and Flex finally give us the tools for building things that “wow” both stakeholders and users. I think it is important that platforms like Curl come along (I know it has been there the whole time) to provide choices and push the bar in the RIA space. I am optimistic that we are only beginning to see what is possible on the client, and it is competition that will bring us platforms that we can only imagine right now. So, I am personally excited to see Curl and Flex coexist, and hopefully have them push each other to continually get better. -Jon Richard,
I do appreciate your passion for bringing attention to the power of the Curl platform. It is an exciting time to be a software engineer, as platforms like Curl and Flex finally give us the tools for building things that “wow” both stakeholders and users. I think it is important that platforms like Curl come along (I know it has been there the whole time) to provide choices and push the bar in the RIA space. I am optimistic that we are only beginning to see what is possible on the client, and it is competition that will bring us platforms that we can only imagine right now. So, I am personally excited to see Curl and Flex coexist, and hopefully have them push each other to continually get better.
-Jon

]]> By: Richard Monson-Haefel http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/06/18/everything-you-think-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-20331 Richard Monson-Haefel Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:42:05 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=38#comment-20331 Jon, I think you have done an excellent job of analyzing the situation. In order to get noticed Curl needed to come out of dark and make our strengths immediately apparent to everyone. Admittedly we have been overzealous in differentiating our product from Flex. That's something we are going to step back from. I wrote a blog post apologizing for this on my own blog which you can read here: http://theclevermonkey.blogspot.com/2008/06/fair-play-in-love-and-war.html Curl engineers and community members are passionate about Curl, but we need to use that passion to add to the discussion rather than attack our competitors. We know that now and we will be changing our methods accordingly. The truth is that there are many applications for which Flex is a better solution. As you mentioned one of the strengths of Flex is ease of deployment and the ubiquity of the Flash plug-in. That makes Flash great for mass-consumer applications. Curl is really strong in terms of security and performance, but its most appropriate in the enterprise where high-performance applications are needed and where sys-admins can control the desktop of the end-users. That's a smaller audience but its one we serve very well. If you want ubiquity and beauty than Flex is an excellent choice. If you want raw performance and tight security than Curl is a good choice. We want to work with the Flex community as well as the JavaFX, Ajax, and Silverlight communities so that Curl can complement their efforts and add value where appropriate. All the best, Richard Monson-Haefel VP of Developer Relations Curl, Inc. Jon,

I think you have done an excellent job of analyzing the situation. In order to get noticed Curl needed to come out of dark and make our strengths immediately apparent to everyone.

Admittedly we have been overzealous in differentiating our product from Flex. That’s something we are going to step back from. I wrote a blog post apologizing for this on my own blog which you can read here: http://theclevermonkey.blogspot.com/2008/06/fair-play-in-love-and-war.html

Curl engineers and community members are passionate about Curl, but we need to use that passion to add to the discussion rather than attack our competitors. We know that now and we will be changing our methods accordingly.

The truth is that there are many applications for which Flex is a better solution. As you mentioned one of the strengths of Flex is ease of deployment and the ubiquity of the Flash plug-in. That makes Flash great for mass-consumer applications.

Curl is really strong in terms of security and performance, but its most appropriate in the enterprise where high-performance applications are needed and where sys-admins can control the desktop of the end-users. That’s a smaller audience but its one we serve very well.

If you want ubiquity and beauty than Flex is an excellent choice. If you want raw performance and tight security than Curl is a good choice.

We want to work with the Flex community as well as the JavaFX, Ajax, and Silverlight communities so that Curl can complement their efforts and add value where appropriate.

All the best,

Richard Monson-Haefel
VP of Developer Relations
Curl, Inc.

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