Comments on: Flex & MVC http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/10/15/flex-mvc/ Enterprise Software Consultant Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:02:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jon Rose’s Blog » Blog Archive » Flight Framework for Flex & What is so great about MVC? http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/10/15/flex-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-20807 Jon Rose’s Blog » Blog Archive » Flight Framework for Flex & What is so great about MVC? Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:59:09 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=53#comment-20807 [...] I just finished a write up for InfoQ on the Flight Framework. Flight compares themselves to Cairngorm, without all the “boiler-plate” code.  The association with Cairngorm is a turn off for me to seriously consider using Flight, as I still don’t understand what value Cairngorm provides (old post 1 & 2).  That doesn’t mean I don’t believe that Flight may have value, but in learning about the framework there seem to be the typical assumption that everyone is out there looking for the perfect MVC solution (old post 3). [...] [...] I just finished a write up for InfoQ on the Flight Framework. Flight compares themselves to Cairngorm, without all the “boiler-plate” code.  The association with Cairngorm is a turn off for me to seriously consider using Flight, as I still don’t understand what value Cairngorm provides (old post 1 & 2).  That doesn’t mean I don’t believe that Flight may have value, but in learning about the framework there seem to be the typical assumption that everyone is out there looking for the perfect MVC solution (old post 3). [...]

]]> By: Jon Rose’s Blog » Blog Archive » Mate :: Flex Framework http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/10/15/flex-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-20564 Jon Rose’s Blog » Blog Archive » Mate :: Flex Framework Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:52:39 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=53#comment-20564 [...] have been rebelling against dragging additional frameworks into Flex just for MVC for a while now (Flex and MVC /  Cairngorm).  I finally got a chance to spend some time coding with Mate on a flight back from [...] [...] have been rebelling against dragging additional frameworks into Flex just for MVC for a while now (Flex and MVC /  Cairngorm).  I finally got a chance to spend some time coding with Mate on a flight back from [...]

]]> By: Mike http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/10/15/flex-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-20561 Mike Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:24:22 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=53#comment-20561 I berated our industry over the same thing. http://blog.bigfatstogie.com/?p=34 Essentially as I've come to see it in the last 10 years or so, patterns as a whole are like training wheels; when you first start working on serious enterprise-level products it's over whelming at first to the newly minted CSE. After a number of years / projects / life-cycles, we begin to see that a particular problem domain or capability set can benefit from a particular implementation of a pattern, but not as much to try to shove it in a preformed box of a framework that makes up a particular pattern (we all use adapter / factory / delegate etc,: but not as much to go about and attempt to make our project structure fit some Adapter-be-all). This is where I think carigorm is utterly ridiculous (besides it's goofy enough to pronounce). I berated our industry over the same thing. http://blog.bigfatstogie.com/?p=34

Essentially as I’ve come to see it in the last 10 years or so, patterns as a whole are like training wheels; when you first start working on serious enterprise-level products it’s over whelming at first to the newly minted CSE. After a number of years / projects / life-cycles, we begin to see that a particular problem domain or capability set can benefit from a particular implementation of a pattern, but not as much to try to shove it in a preformed box of a framework that makes up a particular pattern (we all use adapter / factory / delegate etc,: but not as much to go about and attempt to make our project structure fit some Adapter-be-all). This is where I think carigorm is utterly ridiculous (besides it’s goofy enough to pronounce).

]]> By: Ryan http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/10/15/flex-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-20521 Ryan Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:25:18 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=53#comment-20521 The fundamental problem with not using MVC and simplifying your code is that it reduces the amount of work we get to do as consultants. Long live MVC and bloated software! The truth is high quality and simplistic software is what sets good software consultants apart. The fundamental problem with not using MVC and simplifying your code is that it reduces the amount of work we get to do as consultants. Long live MVC and bloated software! The truth is high quality and simplistic software is what sets good software consultants apart.

]]> By: Curtis Rose http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/10/15/flex-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-20503 Curtis Rose Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:34:57 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=53#comment-20503 I totally agree with the idea of simplifying applications. I've heard Ken Orr often say that 'complexity doesn't scale' and even though he means it in a broader sense, I think it also applies to the amount of code it takes to write applications. Simpler is better, and more maintainable, and cheaper to own over the long haul. I totally agree with the idea of simplifying applications. I’ve heard Ken Orr often say that ‘complexity doesn’t scale’ and even though he means it in a broader sense, I think it also applies to the amount of code it takes to write applications. Simpler is better, and more maintainable, and cheaper to own over the long haul.

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