Comments on: Flex is Java! http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/ Enterprise Software Consultant Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:02:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: ddog http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/comment-page-1/#comment-20839 ddog Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:42:23 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=57#comment-20839 I have to agree. I've just started exploring Flex after learning to hate Java/JSP/Struts/TagLibs/servlets/Spring/ XMLadInfinitum over the last 8 years. The Java 'platform' quite simply is a nightmarish quagmire that I'd be happy to never have to mount again. I'm sure there are many, many other developers like myself who have become very disheartened over the years. Java used to be cool (compared to VB) but now it just sucks..... I have to agree. I’ve just started exploring Flex after learning to hate Java/JSP/Struts/TagLibs/servlets/Spring/
XMLadInfinitum over the last 8 years. The Java ‘platform’ quite simply is a nightmarish quagmire that I’d be happy to never have to mount again. I’m sure there are many, many other developers like myself who have become very disheartened over the years. Java used to be cool (compared to VB) but now it just sucks…..

]]> By: julien http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/comment-page-1/#comment-20550 julien Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:25:41 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=57#comment-20550 While I agree that anyone should promote Flex for it's UI' library, I still argue with my co workers working on the server side about Flex vs. Java. Those stiff geeks (a bit harsh I know) still think the JVM is the only thing out there and Flex is just good for 'Flash Developers' ... I'd rather like seeing them helping me out integrate Java backends in my Flex app (well thanks to Adobe & the Flash community that was possible) Even though I like Java, and have been further than System.out.println, I still feel like Java devs (not all but most) and Sun are too proud to admit Flex makes UI production much easier than anything Java, Anyways, if Sun ever wants to promote Flex, I think they'd find loads of Flex developers ready to help them While I agree that anyone should promote Flex for it’s UI’ library, I still argue with my co workers working on the server side about Flex vs. Java. Those stiff geeks (a bit harsh I know) still think the JVM is the only thing out there and Flex is just good for ‘Flash Developers’ … I’d rather like seeing them helping me out integrate Java backends in my Flex app (well thanks to Adobe & the Flash community that was possible)

Even though I like Java, and have been further than System.out.println, I still feel like Java devs (not all but most) and Sun are too proud to admit Flex makes UI production much easier than anything Java,

Anyways, if Sun ever wants to promote Flex, I think they’d find loads of Flex developers ready to help them

]]> By: Eric Prennin http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/comment-page-1/#comment-20542 Eric Prennin Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:21:22 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=57#comment-20542 http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/the_value_of_distribution_java Ubuntu's a little toy company, Adobe's bigger than Sun. http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/the_value_of_distribution_java

Ubuntu’s a little toy company, Adobe’s bigger than Sun.

]]> By: jonr http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/comment-page-1/#comment-20541 jonr Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:37:25 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=57#comment-20541 http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/ubuntu_on_niagara_and_platinum http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/ubuntu_on_niagara_and_platinum

]]> By: jonr http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/comment-page-1/#comment-20540 jonr Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:28:21 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=57#comment-20540 BTW. Sun does promote Ubuntu (does that count). Also, small technology companies like Microsoft aren't afraid to do business through partnerships. Why should Sun be? Especially in a space where they have failed time and again (i.e. UI technologies). How does Sun profit from Java? BTW. Sun does promote Ubuntu (does that count). Also, small technology companies like Microsoft aren’t afraid to do business through partnerships. Why should Sun be? Especially in a space where they have failed time and again (i.e. UI technologies). How does Sun profit from Java?

]]> By: Eric Prennin http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/comment-page-1/#comment-20539 Eric Prennin Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:23:24 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=57#comment-20539 Um... why is wanting to avoid promoting another company's product NIH? Geez, they don't promote Windows, either. Sun's making some serious money with Java on PC's and phones, I wonder what Adobe's making with Flex/Flush. Um… why is wanting to avoid promoting another company’s product NIH? Geez, they don’t promote Windows, either. Sun’s making some serious money with Java on PC’s and phones, I wonder what Adobe’s making with Flex/Flush.

]]> By: Casper Bang http://gorillajawn.com/wordpress/2008/11/12/flex-is-java/comment-page-1/#comment-20537 Casper Bang Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:10:39 +0000 http://ectropic.com/wordpress/?p=57#comment-20537 Few companies display such NIH attitude as Sun. It will be interesting to follow, with all the pioneers having left Sun (many for Flash/Flex stuff) and a vaporware'ish RIA technology which only seems to amount to JavaOne demos. Few companies display such NIH attitude as Sun. It will be interesting to follow, with all the pioneers having left Sun (many for Flash/Flex stuff) and a vaporware’ish RIA technology which only seems to amount to JavaOne demos.

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